The following letter from Dutch Sheets is very important for us in the aftermath of the election. Here are a few of the points that I really appreciated:
Was what happened Tuesday God’s will? I am quite confident it was not. America was offered a very clear choice between moving further toward protecting the unborn or further away; between a Supreme Court that would move toward honoring God, life and morality or away from it. The stakes couldn’t have been higher nor the cost greater.
And in doing so we took another step away from God and His plans for America, and another step toward judgment.
I have heard the argument that God cares as much about social justice issues (such as poverty and racism) as He does abortion, making a vote for Obama OK. I certainly believe God puts a very high priority on caring for the poor and I, too, have wanted to see equality demonstrated through a "minority" president. But to equate having a better income or the desire for a first black president, regardless of his positions on abortion and morality, to the issue of killing 50 million babies is not justice-it is a gross distortion of justice and great deception.
I also believe it is blood sacrifice that empowers demons.
Though I understand our reasons, we must be careful in our attempts to placate our feelings and calm our fears through religious phrases like "God is still on the throne" or "God has a plan". He was on His throne 35 years and 50 million babies ago. And He had a plan back then.
I’ve been asked if my feelings about Sarah Palin have changed. They have not. I believe she is an Esther, a Deborah, with a huge mantle from God for reformation. God has a great destiny for her related to this nation if she chooses to continue down this path.
Now, here’s the letter in full:
November 6, 2008
I feel certain that many in my stream of the Church want a statement from me concerning Tuesday’s presidential election. I will be frank in my remarks but I do not, however, intend to vent anger or attack anyone. I have read several statements from friends and colleagues I respect very much.
Their thoughts are well stated and, for the most part, insightful. None of them, however, seem to want to say some things that I believe need to be said. I do not claim infallibility or to have the final word, but my convictions run deep and I believe I bear a God-given responsibility to share them.
Was This God’s Will?
Was what happened Tuesday God’s will? I am quite confident it was not. America was offered a very clear choice between moving further toward protecting the unborn or further away; between a Supreme Court that would move toward honoring God, life and morality or away from it. The stakes couldn’t have been higher nor the cost greater. As a nation we put on blinders concerning Barak Obama’s background, associations, beliefs and practices, and set these causes back years, possibly decades.
And in doing so we took another step away from God and His plans for America, and another step toward judgment.
Judgment Will Increase
This is not a fire and brimstone warning from an angry, legalistic preacher. In fact, I feel more sadness and grief than anything else.
Perhaps I feel what Jesus felt as He wept for Jerusalem while announcing its judgment. I am not hoping for judgment; I am saying it is inevitable. I don’t know where the unbiblical belief comes from that says a nation can live any way it pleases, can reject God and His ways-even mock Him-and not receive His judgments. Nor do I know when the belief came that it is always mean-spirited or judgmental to warn of these things. To the contrary, I believe it is our responsibility.
In warning of judgment, I am not suggesting that God is going to intentially and directly hurt people. Much judgment is simply the absence of God’s protection and provision, caused by a rejection of His laws and ways. We have been experiencing some forms of judgment in America for years, but God in His incredible patience and mercy has kept us from the level we’ve deserved. I believe this will change to a degree and judgment will now
increase:
I have heard the argument that God cares as much about social justice issues (such as poverty and racism) as He does abortion, making a vote for Obama OK. I certainly believe God puts a very high priority on caring for the poor and I, too, have wanted to see equality demonstrated through a "minority" president. But to equate having a better income or the desire for a first black president, regardless of his positions on abortion and morality, to the issue of killing 50 million babies is not justice-it is a gross distortion of justice and great deception. I fear that we have been desensitized to this issue of abortion. I believe it kills babies and takes innocent life. I also believe it is blood sacrifice that empowers demons. Let’s not forget this in our noble attempts to be kind and conciliatory.
For African Americans I can easily see how it could bring healing to have a first black president, just as it would be for Native Americans to achieve this or for women if a woman were elected president. Again, I have wanted to see justice in this way. I am only saddened that the price for this healing ended up being Barak Obama, a man that will set the cause of life and, most-likely, our God-given destiny as a nation back so drastically. (I also realize there are some who interpret any criticism of Obama as racism. Racism is so NOT what I am about nor what I live, that I will not even dignify any such accusations with a response.)
What Can We Expect?
What are some of the judgments we can expect on our nation from this election?
How Did This Happen?
I’ve been asked if this could have been averted had there been more prayer. I’m not sure. I believe there was a remnant of Christians fervently praying over these elections-I don’t think there was anything more they could have done. Others, obviously, should have done more. The complacency and lack of discernment concerning our real condition in America-especially by the Church-is both appalling and horrifying. America is in serious trouble and it seems no one wants to say it. Fewer still are willing to do anything to change it.
Though I understand our reasons, we must be careful in our attempts to placate our feelings and calm our fears through religious phrases like "God is still on the throne" or "God has a plan". He was on His throne 35 years and 50 million babies ago. And He had a plan back then. The problem is, it was us. I understand our reasons for waving high the banner of God’s sovereignty at times like these-it gives us hope. I will wave it, as well.
But please be careful with this. Too much emphasis on God’s sovereignty and we’re worthless; too little and we’re hopeless. Maybe we should say, "we lost a critical battle but God will give us strategy to win the war." Then find the strategy.
But still yet, since God is usually willing to work through a remnant, I thought we had enough prayer. Obviously, God decided otherwise. There comes a time when He will not forgive or bless the majority based on the prayers or actions of only a few. America rejected God and asked for a king; I believe we now have our Saul (see 1 Samuel 8:5-7)-a man who does not have God’s heart for America but his own. Like Israel in scripture, our nation believes it can turn from God and still be blessed. In His mercy and justice He will show us otherwise.
Like many, believing I had many promises and confirmations that God would "grace" us with a pro-life president in this election, I failed to consider strongly enough that all promises-even scripture-are conditional 99.9% of the time. Though I never prophesied or made guarantees that McCain-Palin would win, failing to factor this principle in strongly enough no doubt caused me to share my optimism with others inappropriately. If this caused any harm or confusion, I apologize.
Has the fact that my prayers weren’t answered shaken my faith? No. I’m a little confused and discouraged. I’m also somewhat angry at the nation in general and much of the Church. Mostly I’m grieving over the nation and what this will cost us. I am not, however, angry with God and do not question His justice. And it is not true that we wasted our time, energy and money in our efforts anymore than it is a waste when we share the gospel with people who don’t get saved. We must keep in the forefront of our thinking the fact that ultimately we are doing this for Him and that He will reward us for our faithfulness. And who knows, perhaps He will store up all those prayers for the next battle (Revelation 5:8, 8:3-5).
A friend and fellow warrior said it well,
"We did ‘give it our all.’ I know the Lord was pleased with that. A coach wants to know one thing at the end of a heartbreaking sports loss: ‘Did you leave it all on the field?’ (your passion, your commitment, your strength, your courage, etc.) I know that we ‘left it all on the field.’ We didn’t hold anything back until the game ended. Tragically, it ended in defeat. We will rise for another day because Jesus is worthy."
Where Do We Go from Here?
Does this election outcome shake my faith that we can see a great awakening and ultimately reformation in America? Absolutely not (and it strengthens my resolve). We will simply get there through greater pain and loss. Even my passion to see the Supreme Court shift is not from a presupposition that there can be no spiritual awakening without it. It is simply due to my deep conviction that their decisions bring so much death, destruction, curses and judgment to America; and because our full destiny as a nation is unquestionably linked to their decisions. So, yes, we will get an awakening and reformation; but the reality is that this reformation of the nation will reform the Supreme Court (and government, in general), not vice-versa. My faith has never been in people or a political party; my faith is in the God who works through them.
I’ve been asked if my feelings about Sarah Palin have changed. They have not. I believe she is an Esther, a Deborah, with a huge mantle from God for reformation. God has a great destiny for her related to this nation if she chooses to continue down this path.
So, in conclusion, we must re-group as an apostolic, praying church and advance. We must maintain an immovable faith in God, His plans for America and His mercy. And we must move beyond simply asking God for a spiritual awakening and ask Him for strategy to produce reformation, as well. I, for one, am just getting started!
For God and this great nation,
Dutch Sheets
Sheets is a nut. It's sad, he used to seem like a pretty decent guy. This sounds like the rantings of a guy who is mad his candidate did not win. Sheets is mad, therefore naturally his personal idea of God must also be mad and ready to strike down the nation, and anyone and everyone who supported Obama. That's a pretty silly and jaundiced view of God don't you think?
Sheets is a nut. It's sad, he used to seem like a pretty decent guy. This sounds like the rantings of a guy who is mad his candidate did not win. Sheets is mad, therefore naturally his personal idea of God must also be mad and ready to strike down the nation, and anyone and everyone who supported Obama. That's a pretty silly and jaundiced view of God don't you think?
I am so disappointed in our church leaders and the voices of the prophets rising up against President Obama. Obama is God's choice and will for America.
This article further divides us as Americans and even Christians. I feel that the underlying meaning in many of our prophetic voices speaking out if racism. Period.
I am happy that God is finally dealing with the Body of Christ and the racist hearts. I believe that God has raised us this man Obama to bring unity to the Christian as well as reveal our hearts.
Racism is still in the church and divides us. I thank God for raising up Obama to be his voice to this generation and bring healing to the nations.
As Christians, we must pray for those who are in leadership and have authority over us. This is God's commandment.
God said that in the last days even the very elect will be deceived and the prophets will rise up with false words. I know this is the time for Obama and God will use him mightily.
My prayer is for the Church to come together during this time and deal with our hearts. We certainly need to.
God does establish all authority… but that doesn't mean all authority is his perfect choice for the position.
To say it's primarily a race issue is just not true. Kim Daniels came out hard in opposition to the election of our new president.
Barack Obama stands for some deeply unbiblical and horrifying issues. I find it strange that a Christian could ever support someone with viewpoints like that. It just doesn't register.
Keep in mind the church that he's coming out of… it's a heretical church. The UCC. So, unity at all costs will cost us even our salvation. We have to be very, very careful.
That being said, we must love and serve and honor and pray for our new president with passion.
I am so disappointed in our church leaders and the voices of the prophets rising up against President Obama. Obama is God's choice and will for America.
This article further divides us as Americans and even Christians. I feel that the underlying meaning in many of our prophetic voices speaking out if racism. Period.
I am happy that God is finally dealing with the Body of Christ and the racist hearts. I believe that God has raised us this man Obama to bring unity to the Christian as well as reveal our hearts.
Racism is still in the church and divides us. I thank God for raising up Obama to be his voice to this generation and bring healing to the nations.
As Christians, we must pray for those who are in leadership and have authority over us. This is God's commandment.
God said that in the last days even the very elect will be deceived and the prophets will rise up with false words. I know this is the time for Obama and God will use him mightily.
My prayer is for the Church to come together during this time and deal with our hearts. We certainly need to.
God does establish all authority… but that doesn't mean all authority is his perfect choice for the position.
To say it's primarily a race issue is just not true. Kim Daniels came out hard in opposition to the election of our new president.
Barack Obama stands for some deeply unbiblical and horrifying issues. I find it strange that a Christian could ever support someone with viewpoints like that. It just doesn't register.
Keep in mind the church that he's coming out of… it's a heretical church. The UCC. So, unity at all costs will cost us even our salvation. We have to be very, very careful.
That being said, we must love and serve and honor and pray for our new president with passion.
And we must move beyond simply asking God for a spiritual awakening and ask Him for strategy to produce reformation, as well. ————————————————– AMEN!
And we must move beyond simply asking God for a spiritual awakening and ask Him for strategy to produce reformation, as well. ————————————————– AMEN!
I believe that we should get our focus off of man and turn our attention back to God. No matter who ran the country prior to Barack we always had some sort of issue that plagued our country. I knew that Obama would win. God woke me up from a sleep and told me so. At the time the tv was on and my husband was watching it. I looked to my husband and said, “God said Obama will be the next president”. Now, was that ordained? I don't know, but the statement was made we need to start praying for reformation. What has the church been doing all of this time. We have forgotten about scripture that “all things will work for the good in the end” and “pray for those in authority”. Every president that have been set in position was not someone I would have voted for, but I think that this president will usher us into and set the platform for Biblical prophecy. Anyway in the end God will judge us according to the choices that we make as individuals. Where is our influence as a CHURCH? I believe that some of us try to sway GOD with our own personal views. Another thing is we need to remain positive, regardless who won. This is not about a man.
I believe that we should get our focus off of man and turn our attention back to God. No matter who ran the country prior to Barack we always had some sort of issue that plagued our country. I knew that Obama would win. God woke me up from a sleep and told me so. At the time the tv was on and my husband was watching it. I looked to my husband and said, “God said Obama will be the next president”. Now, was that ordained? I don't know, but the statement was made we need to start praying for reformation. What has the church been doing all of this time. We have forgotten about scripture that “all things will work for the good in the end” and “pray for those in authority”. Every president that have been set in position was not someone I would have voted for, but I think that this president will usher us into and set the platform for Biblical prophecy. Anyway in the end God will judge us according to the choices that we make as individuals. Where is our influence as a CHURCH? I believe that some of us try to sway GOD with our own personal views. Another thing is we need to remain positive, regardless who won. This is not about a man.
I am happy to see that you think that the tides of America has changed because of the election of President Obama, but has it, or has it began a cryptic chain of events that will split this great nation into many broken pieces. My choice of president would have been Alan Keyes, a true honorable man that would have put all the foundations of Yahweh (Our Creator) first, before his own agenda. Remember that satan comes as an angel of light, and there will be great mockers of Elohim. We are now seeing the tides change for the worst. Why, because this President before the ink was dried on his oath of office, chose to precipitate the most heinous of crimes against America by signing the Abortion Bill that defies the reason why we serve Yahshua(Jesus) because of life and value for all people regardless of race, color or creed.
Do you go to church to uplift man or Yahweh ? Because if you cannot see the difference in abortion and racism, as both being barbaric in the eyes of Yahweh, then maybe you had better search your heart to see if there is anything in it that is displeasing to Yahweh.
Yes, I do agree to pray for all men in authority because the Holy Scriptures commands us to pray at all times for all men, regardless of who they are. But our leaders must emulate the practices of Yahshua, not himself, they must possess wisdom of Yahweh and understanding of His ways and not ours. Remember Yahweh gave Israel a king that emulated what they wanted and they got Saul. If you were looking for a way out of this mess, it is not the President that is going to do it. It is the Body of Christ when we the Body Of Christ remember II Chronicles 7:14, it says “If my people, Yahweh's people, who are called by my name, Yahweh (Covenant name of our creator), shall humble ourselves (bow, kneel, prostrate themselves with a contrite heart)and pray(not I want, I need, I have to have soulishy prayers), but prayers of not thine will but Your will be done),and turn from our wicked ways (greed, lust,murder, preversions, back-biting,self-seeking groanings, disobedience, rebellion and the uplifting of man), and seek HIS face (looking to what Yahweh wants done and not what we want, for the sake of all mankind!) then I (Yahweh) will hear from Heaven (our prayers then will be heard), and I will heal their land ( from Abortion, Racism, Poverty,Greed,Idolatry,Lascivousness,Sexual Perversions, and all other curses that have been put on this land by ignoring Deuetroronmy 27,28. Remember if Yahweh did not spare the angels, but sent them to the Abyss because of their rebellion, and Adam and Eve, tasted of death because of disobedience, and Noah and his family was the only ones spared during the great flood, the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah ceased to exist because of Homosexuality, and Jericho fell because of worshipping false gods and idols, and the scriptures goes on… then where do you think that we are any better then these people who had their own agenda. We have more then just racism to repent from Church, we have blood shed which is much more grievous in the land because we have allowed the creation to be slaughtered, which by the way racism is in every nationality. It is sin that divides us and the lack of love for Yahweh and concern for all creation. After all if the leader respects and values all life, then they will respect and value you.
There is more at stake for this great country, if we choose to be divisive in all our beliefs. I believe there is only one Elohim, Yahweh, our creator, there is only one savior, Yahshua, Yahweh's son, who is our High Priest, because He chose to shed His blood on a cross for the punishment of sin that was meant for all men. There is only gospel, that of the Holy Scriptures, instructions for all men to live by, and one spirit, the Rauck Kodaush (Holy Spirit), and one faith that of Yahshua as our Savior. Eph 4. We should not have any other beliefs that brings sorrow and grief to our Elohim. Remember if the Holy Scriptures say we must do something than we must be obedient and do it, and if the Holy Scriptures say not to do something, then we better think twice about our disobedience, and the consequences that disobedience carries. That is my prayer for the Body of Christ. Not whether our president is a different color.
I am happy to see that you think that the tides of America has changed because of the election of President Obama, but has it, or has it began a cryptic chain of events that will split this great nation into many broken pieces. My choice of president would have been Alan Keyes, a true honorable man that would have put all the foundations of Yahweh (Our Creator) first, before his own agenda. Remember that satan comes as an angel of light, and there will be great mockers of Elohim. We are now seeing the tides change for the worst. Why, because this President before the ink was dried on his oath of office, chose to precipitate the most heinous of crimes against America by signing the Abortion Bill that defies the reason why we serve Yahshua(Jesus) because of life and value for all people regardless of race, color or creed.
Do you go to church to uplift man or Yahweh ? Because if you cannot see the difference in abortion and racism, as both being barbaric in the eyes of Yahweh, then maybe you had better search your heart to see if there is anything in it that is displeasing to Yahweh.
Yes, I do agree to pray for all men in authority because the Holy Scriptures commands us to pray at all times for all men, regardless of who they are. But our leaders must emulate the practices of Yahshua, not himself, they must possess wisdom of Yahweh and understanding of His ways and not ours. Remember Yahweh gave Israel a king that emulated what they wanted and they got Saul. If you were looking for a way out of this mess, it is not the President that is going to do it. It is the Body of Christ when we the Body Of Christ remember II Chronicles 7:14, it says “If my people, Yahweh's people, who are called by my name, Yahweh (Covenant name of our creator), shall humble ourselves (bow, kneel, prostrate themselves with a contrite heart)and pray(not I want, I need, I have to have soulishy prayers), but prayers of not thine will but Your will be done),and turn from our wicked ways (greed, lust,murder, preversions, back-biting,self-seeking groanings, disobedience, rebellion and the uplifting of man), and seek HIS face (looking to what Yahweh wants done and not what we want, for the sake of all mankind!) then I (Yahweh) will hear from Heaven (our prayers then will be heard), and I will heal their land ( from Abortion, Racism, Poverty,Greed,Idolatry,Lascivousness,Sexual Perversions, and all other curses that have been put on this land by ignoring Deuetroronmy 27,28. Remember if Yahweh did not spare the angels, but sent them to the Abyss because of their rebellion, and Adam and Eve, tasted of death because of disobedience, and Noah and his family was the only ones spared during the great flood, the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah ceased to exist because of Homosexuality, and Jericho fell because of worshipping false gods and idols, and the scriptures goes on… then where do you think that we are any better then these people who had their own agenda. We have more then just racism to repent from Church, we have blood shed which is much more grievous in the land because we have allowed the creation to be slaughtered, which by the way racism is in every nationality. It is sin that divides us and the lack of love for Yahweh and concern for all creation. After all if the leader respects and values all life, then they will respect and value you.
There is more at stake for this great country, if we choose to be divisive in all our beliefs. I believe there is only one Elohim, Yahweh, our creator, there is only one savior, Yahshua, Yahweh's son, who is our High Priest, because He chose to shed His blood on a cross for the punishment of sin that was meant for all men. There is only gospel, that of the Holy Scriptures, instructions for all men to live by, and one spirit, the Rauck Kodaush (Holy Spirit), and one faith that of Yahshua as our Savior. Eph 4. We should not have any other beliefs that brings sorrow and grief to our Elohim. Remember if the Holy Scriptures say we must do something than we must be obedient and do it, and if the Holy Scriptures say not to do something, then we better think twice about our disobedience, and the consequences that disobedience carries. That is my prayer for the Body of Christ. Not whether our president is a different color.
Victoria Goacher et. al.: As a Messianic Jew I am extremely concerned about our leader and his policies. His consistent waffling on his policies about matters in the Middle East give me great pause! When rulers persecute the people of Israel, saved or not, this angers God (Elohim). The Lord (Adonai [or YHVH - Yahweh]), just because the Jews as a majority have stiffened their necks and refused to worship Yeshua (Jesus) as Hamashiach (the Messiah) does not mean that He has abandoned them altogether. The Jews fits into the grand scheme of things as pertains to the end times. In the Brit Hadashah (New Testament) it does indeed inform us to show respect to our leaders and those in authority over us. However, we must also remember that those leaders are set there for either as a blessing or a curse.
29 1 Whoever stubbornly refuses to accept criticism
will suddenly be destroyed beyond recovery.
2 When the godly are in authority, the people rejoice.
But when the wicked are in power, they groan.
3 The man who loves wisdom brings joy to his father,
but if he hangs around with prostitutes, his wealth is wasted.
4 A just king gives stability to his nation,
but one who demands bribes destroys it. (Prov 29:1-4 New Living Test.)
So, here we see that rulers,can be for the good or bad, with the evil rulers often given for our rebuke and punishment.
In the past, when things were bad, we often turned our hearts immediately to God and prayed something of this sort:
“14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. ” (II Chronicles 7:14, KJV)
So far I've not heard this cry from this land and I wonder, “are we so righteous that we need for prayer”? I don't think so! I see pride in the faces and voices of those around me and almost a sense of worship for our president. It was Peter that said that he perceived that God was no discerner (one who esteemed another OVER another. Let us not forget that the man in office is still a man, and not a god!
Don't get me wrong … I think it's about time that an African-American individual has been seated in the highest in the highest position in the land! But I am satisfied because I think it demonstrates that racism in this land is on the way out! Hallelujah!
Let's pray for president that his words be seasoned with salt and light and that his ways and actions demonstrate the wisdom of God. And finally, let us pray for ourselves that the Lord will show us if there is any sin in us and deal with us as His children because it is written. ” 5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: 6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.” (Hebrews 5:5-8 KJV)
By the way, Victoria, I'm with you all the way with Alan Keyes. He has been my choice ever since he first came upon the political scene. And as a Christian and a Jew, he would be a choice I could go for all the way!
Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalayim
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem!
Victoria Goacher et. al.: As a Messianic Jew I am extremely concerned about our leader and his policies. His consistent waffling on his policies about matters in the Middle East give me great pause! When rulers persecute the people of Israel, saved or not, this angers God (Elohim). The Lord (Adonai [or YHVH - Yahweh]), just because the Jews as a majority have stiffened their necks and refused to worship Yeshua (Jesus) as Hamashiach (the Messiah) does not mean that He has abandoned them altogether. The Jews fits into the grand scheme of things as pertains to the end times. In the Brit Hadashah (New Testament) it does indeed inform us to show respect to our leaders and those in authority over us. However, we must also remember that those leaders are set there for either as a blessing or a curse.
29 1 Whoever stubbornly refuses to accept criticism
will suddenly be destroyed beyond recovery.
2 When the godly are in authority, the people rejoice.
But when the wicked are in power, they groan.
3 The man who loves wisdom brings joy to his father,
but if he hangs around with prostitutes, his wealth is wasted.
4 A just king gives stability to his nation,
but one who demands bribes destroys it. (Prov 29:1-4 New Living Test.)
So, here we see that rulers,can be for the good or bad, with the evil rulers often given for our rebuke and punishment.
In the past, when things were bad, we often turned our hearts immediately to God and prayed something of this sort:
“14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. ” (II Chronicles 7:14, KJV)
So far I've not heard this cry from this land and I wonder, “are we so righteous that we need for prayer”? I don't think so! I see pride in the faces and voices of those around me and almost a sense of worship for our president. It was Peter that said that he perceived that God was no discerner (one who esteemed another OVER another. Let us not forget that the man in office is still a man, and not a god!
Don't get me wrong … I think it's about time that an African-American individual has been seated in the highest in the highest position in the land! But I am satisfied because I think it demonstrates that racism in this land is on the way out! Hallelujah!
Let's pray for president that his words be seasoned with salt and light and that his ways and actions demonstrate the wisdom of God. And finally, let us pray for ourselves that the Lord will show us if there is any sin in us and deal with us as His children because it is written. ” 5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: 6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.” (Hebrews 5:5-8 KJV)
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Donald, I thank-you for your thoughts and your passion to be right before our King, Yeshua, and I am sorry about my spelling of hebrew names, I am new to the hebrew language.
Yahweh, has given me a new way to look at our leader, President Obama, it took my pleading with Yahweh, because I do not like the man or his policies, however, I am compelled to pray in earnest for him and all of our leaders. Because in Proverbs 21:1,
it says “that the heart of the king (leader) is in the hand of God, like the rivers water, He turns it which ever way He wants.” this is paraphrased, but I believe you know what the Word says. Our president is being used as a pawn in the bigger scheme of things, and it is up to the Body of Christ, the church to undergird with prayer regardless if we like him or not. President Obama has a golden opportunity to turn this nation back to Yahweh, or he can lead us to destruction. We can either let the people, who are controlling his strings manipulate him and us , or we can severe the strings, and create a storm in heaven that will bring down the strong-hold over us.
You are so right, we need chastening, and humbled, and become obedient to Yahweh's commandments. This is my prayer for myself as well as others in the Body of Christ. Thank-You for your correction in love!
Shalom, Victoria
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Donald, I thank-you for your thoughts and your passion to be right before our King, Yeshua, and I am sorry about my spelling of hebrew names, I am new to the hebrew language.
Yahweh, has given me a new way to look at our leader, President Obama, it took my pleading with Yahweh, because I do not like the man or his policies, however, I am compelled to pray in earnest for him and all of our leaders. Because in Proverbs 21:1,
it says “that the heart of the king (leader) is in the hand of God, like the rivers water, He turns it which ever way He wants.” this is paraphrased, but I believe you know what the Word says. Our president is being used as a pawn in the bigger scheme of things, and it is up to the Body of Christ, the church to undergird with prayer regardless if we like him or not. President Obama has a golden opportunity to turn this nation back to Yahweh, or he can lead us to destruction. We can either let the people, who are controlling his strings manipulate him and us , or we can severe the strings, and create a storm in heaven that will bring down the strong-hold over us.
You are so right, we need chastening, and humbled, and become obedient to Yahweh's commandments. This is my prayer for myself as well as others in the Body of Christ. Thank-You for your correction in love!
Shalom, Victoria
Shalom!
Victoria, it was great to receive a reply from you the other day. I think you are definitely on the right track! Those of us that are Jewish (in my case, not formerly so religious before I was redeemed) If you really want to learn more about the 'Jewishness' of Christianity, let me turn you on to a web site that I often refer to Christians who want to learn more about the Nature of Who Jesus was and is, http://www.jcstudies.com/index.cfm
It's a wonderful site, and it happens to be in Dayton, Ohio, fewer than ten miles from where I live. but that's not the ONLY reason why I like it. I think you will find it informative and quite delightful. The president of the organization, Dwight A Pryor, PhD (he's got a title and everything) heads up the 'Center For Judaic-Christian Studies.
By the way, don't worry about your Hebrew, God understands us no matter what you speak! I can speak in some Hebrew beccause I continue to study it(it takes years to master the language, I only have about 1 1/2 years in), find a good book on Biblical Hebrew and you can begin from there.
I leave you with this scripture: I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time. (1 Tim 2:1-6 NIV)
Rosh Hoshana (New Year) is soon upon us (9/19/09) and the high feast days.
I wish you “LeShana Tova” A good and sweet new year
L'chaim – to life
P.S.: To begin to learn Hebrew, try this site:
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/
Shalom!
Victoria, it was great to receive a reply from you the other day. I think you are definitely on the right track! Those of us that are Jewish (in my case, not formerly so religious before I was redeemed) If you really want to learn more about the 'Jewishness' of Christianity, let me turn you on to a web site that I often refer to Christians who want to learn more about the Nature of Who Jesus was and is, http://www.jcstudies.com/index.cfm
It's a wonderful site, and it happens to be in Dayton, Ohio, fewer than ten miles from where I live. but that's not the ONLY reason why I like it. I think you will find it informative and quite delightful. The president of the organization, Dwight A Pryor, PhD (he's got a title and everything) heads up the 'Center For Judaic-Christian Studies.
By the way, don't worry about your Hebrew, God understands us no matter what you speak! I can speak in some Hebrew beccause I continue to study it(it takes years to master the language, I only have about 1 1/2 years in), find a good book on Biblical Hebrew and you can begin from there.
I leave you with this scripture: I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time. (1 Tim 2:1-6 NIV)
Rosh Hoshana is soon upon us(9/19/09) and the high feast days. I wish you a “LeShana Tova” A good and sweet new year
L'chaim – to life